It's BAD out there.
I just perused the net, blog to blog, link to link. There are a lot of sick people writing anti-terrorist drivel and propaganda these days, apparently oblivious to the fact that they are being manipulated into a desirable frame of mind by the WORLDSTATE, with its headquarters in the US. Well, if any of you should happen to stumble across this, take warning. It's quite simple, actually. Each person is like you, and like your brother or sister, and like your child. You wouldn't do those things to anyone you'd ever loved, would you? Wake up.
posted by Jeanne at 21:57
22 Comments:
Really? Because my religion doesn't call me to strap bombs to myself and murder innocent civilians because they dare not be subject to me. Nor does my brother's or sisters, and nor does my child's.
Really?
During the Crusades, your religion called for a lot of killing of innocent civilians.
People should not kill people.
"People should not kill people."
Well, somebody's got to do it. I have no problem with killing people, I would just rather that it be thought through a little better. If our plan in Iraq were actually possible that would be nice. Freedom is a thing that I cherish (limited as it is) but I don't think that you can just go somewhere and "import it". People have to fight, kill and die for it of their own accord.
Unseen-The Koran doesn't call for killing any more than the Old Testament of our Bible does. People get religion wrong 100% of the time. That doesn't mean that we throw it away.
Sorry, Jeanne, for acting like this is my blog.
Brendar,
My blog is your blog.
I have to make supper now, but then you'd better duck.
I think it comes down to simply whether you take a local view or a world view. By that, I mean we needn't label people "good" or "bad" based on where we sit in the world. To "name hidden's" comment, one might suggest that the terrorist are strapping bombs to themselves simply because they dare not be subject to the will of outside governments.
We're all tired of terrorists and terrorism, but you don't have to be a bleeding heart liberal to try to understand a divergent point of view. You just need to have an open mind.
Brendar,
As far as I know, people die on their own eventually.
I don't have the energy left to fight with you. I imagine I've said it all to you before, so you can find it in your archives if you've forgotten, or check out Name Hidden's blog.
How on earth you manage to incorporate this into your religion is beyond me.
"During the Crusades, your religion called for a lot of killing of innocent civilians."
Read history... was it the offensive or the defensive?
"The Koran doesn't call for killing any more than the Old Testament of our Bible does."
Um ... I would argue the context of the instruction is most important.
The Qu-ran calls for the death of the infedel - generally/globally.
The Bible calls for death only in specific cases and was prescribed under Isrealite Law. There is no call in the Bible to conquer the known world and remove all other peoples.
I'm getting sick of this. Killing is wrong. I couldn't care less what is written in any book. As Archive X has impressed upon us, "The truth is out there". Or in here. Not written in some irrelevant book that the majority of people who have lived on this earth have never had the benefit of seeing. Many people died during the Crusades, which should have made them realize they were doing something wrong. Many people are dying now, so ditto.
Festi, Joe,
Hi and goodnight. Each of you.
Hmmm. no goodnight for your old pal Brendar, eh? Jeanne, if you could come out of your shell a little I'm sure that you could find a reason to kill someone. I'm sure that you have never been in a situation where you had reason or opportunity to kill anyone (except for possibly the odd fetus). However I find your lack of understanding for those of us who accept killing as an acceptable form of free speech to be a tad close-minded.
It's hard to type while ducking.
Brendar,
To begin with, I didn't say goodnight to you because I wrote a whole reply to you. I did not want to neglect anyone, particularly not yesterday.
What shell?
You seen to be a firm believer in the idea that the best defence is a good offence.
I don't think you've been listening carefully. I feel reasons to kill people regularly, during the moments when I am overcome by fury (a common occurence with the world and its inhabitants in the shape thy're in, and my temper), and could no doubt be pushed into a situation by fate that would cause me to knee-jerk someone to death, but THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT. And as soon as I am aware again of the fact that the object of my anger exists, and is a human being, I find a clear distinction between who the person is and what he/she has done.
Below the belt comment about abortion. No, I don't believe in it; yes, I had one once, in my youth, which I regret and would never repeat.
You have no idea what situations I've been in in my life.
I find you somewhat hypocritical in your insistence that I would kill in certain situations, because (if you think way back) it was my entire point that murderers should not be judged and condemned to cruel and inhuman punishment or death because one has no idea why they have acted, and whether or not one would have done the same thing in their place.
I am sorry if you have been in the military, and had to do or accept things that you shouldn't have had to. My father was in the marine corp during the Korean war.
Again, my blog is your blog. I'm just tired of arguing when I'm sure you actually know I'm right.
Good night and good morning, Brendar.
Is my ego signing checks my body can't cash?
Don't worry, Jeanne. We have your back. We just won't kill anyone for you. :)
You are right, I am a hypocrite. The fetus comment was not directed at you personally and you are right again, if I had known what you have been through I never would have written it. My deepest apologies.
I hope that you know that my comment, “someone has to kill them” was as sarcastic as my comment about you having to come out of your shell.
I believe that civilized, free people are capable of developing systems that punish people for wrong behavior. I don’t like the idea of War and I don’t like the war in which we are currently involved. I don’t like the way that it started and I don’t like the way it is going to end. I do believe that sometimes people have to fight and people have to be punished.
People should not kill people, but they do and they always have and they always will. Just, free, civilized people who are their victims will also be their judges.
Does Jeanne believe that all punishments are wrong or just capitol punishment?
Jeanne believes that all punishments are wrong, but she is a hypocrite, because just yesterday she said she wanted to put the fat pig farmer in front of her behind a fence without any shelter and under-feed him until he is as thin and weather-beaten as his pigs. Not that he would be harmed by that. Perhaps enlightened.
Seriously, I am against all forms of punishment. Teach the people who are ignorant, heal the ones who are ill or undernourished, and quarantine (in humane and pleasant quarters) the ones who are irreparably damaged so they can do no more harm. Criminals are the fault and responsibility of the society that produces them
mlwhitt:
Sorry to have forgotten you in the general turmoil of this last blogging day. Welcome.
No sarcasm is ever justified unless I realize it's sarcasm.
Joe,
Can you scratch my back while you're standing behind me anyway? Just below my left shoulderblade. Thanks.
Goodness Gracious Sakes Alive, Steve! I tried to go to your blog and about 10 pop-ups opened! Angelfire BAD!!!
;)
Steve. A pleasant surprise.
I hope you're not on your own, faced with millions of simultaneos potential assasins. Then I think any behavior would be excusable. If they come one at a time, and well spaced, then you should teach them, if possible, or run away. What people do in moments of fear, or in self defence (or both!)is not the same thing as what they plan to do, or think is right. In my most humble :) opinion.
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